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Equine Apprenticeship Myths – BUSTED!

Equine Apprenticeships are good for everyone!

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Linda Hudson of Equic8 EquineThe Grooms List by Caroline Carter Recruitment Ltd is delighted to publish an article by Linda Hudson, Head of Business Development at Apprenticeship Training Provider Educ8 Training. These guys are not new kids on the block; they have a longstanding presence in the world of  Apprenticeships and have been providing World Class Apprenticeships and training for over 13 years now.

Like most of us Linda has had a lifelong passion for horses. She has competed, has BHS qualifications, has worked on an equine yard and has studied Law. An active equestrian and in her own words “a typical Pony Club Mum,” Linda has a unique 360′ view.

Linda has worked in a wide range of non-horsey roles in businesses from sole traders to global organisations and in the last 10 years, she has worked in both college and private training organisations.

Caroline

 


Equine Apprenticeship Myths – BUSTED!

by Linda Hudson

So many of my friends running equine yards tell me how difficult it is to find good staff with the right work ethic, how hard it is to keep them, and how much pressure this places on them when they are understaffed either as a one-off as someone’s gone off sick for the day or on a longer-term basis.  They tell me stories about having to waste competition entries because they had no one at home to take care of the yard whilst they’re away, or  just that finding someone to rely upon was becoming increasingly difficult.

I hear comments from employers such as:

  • ‘Kids these days don’t want to put in a full day’s work’
  • ‘I’m better off having a working pupil’
  • ‘Standards are dropping’
  • Young people come here with a paper qualification from a college and don’t have the practical skills we need’
  • Staff keep telling me they’re better off ‘on benefits’

But equally, I hear tales from young people who entered the industry full of enthusiasm and hoping for a long- term career only to be disappointed by:

  • Not being able to manage financially on their wage – ‘can’t afford driving lessons/to top my phone up/to go on holiday’
  • Living in seriously sub-standard accommodation – no heating in winter, no running water, no flushing toilet (yes, honestly!!)
  • Unreasonable working hours and expectations sometimes upwards of 60 hours per week
  • No contract/pension/job description/H+S/ performance appraisal
  • Mucking out all day and receiving no actual training or development
  • Feeling they are just used as cheap labour
  • Bullying in the workplace
  • Finding it’s a ‘dead end job’

So, who’s right, who’s wrong?  THEY ALL ARE!

 

I’m going to ask you to remember that there are two sides to most stories.

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Facts and MythsAs Caroline Carter seems to have said over and over again, just as there are some young people who are letting their employers down, there are some employers who are letting their employees down it’s not all one way.  I believe that for every bad employer, who is choosing to ignore basic employment law and health and safety legislation, so putting their business at risk of prosecutions and fines, there are many, many more who believe fervently in providing fair working conditions, training the next generation, teaching them how to do things to the best possible standards of care for the horses we all love.

For every unsuitable employee,  looking for a ‘cushy number’, ringing in sick when they’ve had a ‘heavy night’ the night before, there are many, many more who really want to learn, who go above and beyond, who are ambitious to do well and progress in their careers, and who dearly love the horses in their care and drag themselves to work through the worst of winter weather.  Why do so many of these end up disenchanted and burnt out after only a few years?

 

Where does it all go wrong?

I think it starts to go wrong before it’s even begun – before the potential employee/apprentice has even left school!  Careers Information, Advice and Guidance in schools varies from fantastic to very weak and many young people and their parents don’t understand the full range of post 16 choices or the pro’s and con’s of each.

 

It happened to me and my own daughter – let me tell you the tale…

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Educ8 Equine ApprenticeshipsMessage: It’s important that employees and parents understand all the options available within education when at school and beyond. It can all go wrong or awry if this isn’t properly researched and thought through in practical and technical terms!

My daughter had had various part time jobs (some with horses, some not) since she was about 13.  By the age of 15 she was working as weekend cover for a professional dressage rider and trainer.  He thought so highly of her (after a period of time) that he was even prepared to leave her in sole charge of extremely valuable dressage stallions, including turning them out or bringing them in, and dealing with some very challenging livery clients on his behalf, whilst he went off to shows with the full time member of staff as his competition groom!  She announced as she went into her GCSE’s that she was not going to stay on at school for A levels.  I was horrified!!  Having completed my A levels and gone on to university, I thought this was a waste of her education opportunities, it was closing the door to future university if she later decided that was the route she wanted to go.  I was so disappointed.  We argued endlessly about it.  For weeks.  Probably for months.  She won.  She didn’t go back to school.  As the only career she was prepared to think about was a career with horses, I set about finding out  about college courses and after soul searching, masses of research and a few tears, (mostly mine!) off she trotted to a live in- course at a highly respected equine college a couple of hours’ drive away.  She loved it!!  She made lifelong friends, she matured, she developed her independence.  Fortunately, she also gained the qualification – a Level 3 National Diploma in Horse Care.  This also enabled her to then gain a place at a different, equally highly respected equine college where she started a degree in Equine Science. But unfortunately, this is the point where the ‘wheels started to come off’.

 

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Education and skillsUnfortunately for her, although the college course equated to 2 A levels and gave her the UCAS points for university entry, it didn’t prepare her well, as A level study would have, for the level of academic study she faced on a degree course.  She struggled with the science as she hadn’t studied any science at A level.  A further mistake I made was that I allowed her to keep on eventing her 2 horses – she took one to 2 star during this period – and keep the several part-time jobs she needed to be able to contribute to her horses and eventing costs.  I set her up to fail and, in hindsight quite predictably, she switched courses to Equine Business and extended her degree by a year but eventually abandoned it altogether a few months before her final year was due to end after struggling to maintain progress throughout.

The story has a happy ending – she was actually the first one of her uni group to get a full -time job – at the equine college where she’d been a degree student – and she went on to develop a working life outside horses.

 

Understanding ALL the options – Equine Apprenticeships myths

Clearly my big mistake was when she was leaving school – I had absolutely no idea about apprenticeships as an alternative route. So here with the benefit of hindsight and experience are a few myths I’m going to bust and ‘truths’ I’m going to reveal to help you, whether you are a school leaver, a parent of a school leaver, someone in an equine job/apprenticeship who is feeling uninspired, or an employer.

 

“Apprenticeships are for students who aren’t academic enough to do A levels or go to college or on to a degree course.”

WRONG. Whilst it’s true that apprenticeships don’t carry UCAS points they do involve academic study and training alongside gaining real workplace skills which employers value. It’s possible to progress all the way to degree level of studies in this way.  Even the most vocationally based apprenticeships such as Equine Groom can provide a pathway to degree apprenticeships, for example via Level 3 Team Leading and on to Level 5 Management (foundation degree level) and Level 7 Management (degree level).  All the time, earning whilst learning and, importantly, not building up a huge student loan debt!

 

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Older learners“Apprenticeships are just for young people.”

WRONG. There is no age limit to an apprenticeship. So long as you meet the other eligibility criteria eg residence in UK or EU etc, employed (not self-employed) status.  This means that older people can change careers and access apprenticeship funding for their qualifications.  It also means that someone who’s already employed can access apprenticeship funding for further career development.  The only difference is that for anyone aged 19+ the Government funds 95% of the training (16 – 18’s are fully funded for small employers with less than 50 staff) and the employer must pay the other 5%

 

Equine Apprenticeship Myths - BUSTED! Employment Law“A working pupil arrangement is better than an apprenticeship.”

WRONG. Apart from very carefully crafted contractual agreements (should be in writing and under professional legal advice) to train someone aged 18+ most working pupil arrangements are in breach of HMRC tax legislation. ‘quid pro quo’ and ‘benefits in kind’ are taxable so this kind of arrangement, over a period of time, could render an employer liable for a huge tax bill.  Anyone under 18 is mandated to education or training and so can only be legally employed under an Apprenticeship scheme or a Traineeship.  Equally, for the working pupil there are risks – an employer has to have Employers’ Liability Insurance – this covers employees but would not cover a working pupil – because they are not employed!  Some employers call their apprentice a working pupil, some call their working pupil an apprentice.  They are not the same thing!  Be clear about whether this is an apprenticeship, with an apprenticeship training agreement and a contract of employment, or not, whether you are the employee, the employer or a parent!

 

The Grooms LIst - How Grooms Can Earn Extra Money - Caroline Carter Recruitment“All Apprentices are only paid £4.81 per hour.”   

WRONG. There is a National Minimum Wage for Apprentices (which changes every year in April) and from April 2022 it is £4.81 but this is just a minimum and employers are free to pay above this if/when they choose. Many employers will usually start an apprentice on the Apprentice minimum wage but may give pay increases as skills and competencies develop.

Additionally, Apprentices aged 19 or over in their second year of an apprenticeship must be paid at least the National Minimum Wage for their age, NOT the National Minimum Wage for Apprentices!

 

Become a Professional Rider - you haven't escaped yard duties yet!“Apprenticeships are just slave labour.”

WRONG. Every employer of apprentices must provide (and show evidence of this) high-quality training during no less than 20% of the apprentice’s paid working time. Many equine employers provide much more training than this but it’s not always easy to recognise off the job training when it’s happening in a live workplace at intervals during the day instead of by a block of day release to college or a full-time classroom course.

 

“Apprenticeships are only available to someone with GCSE’s grades A – C, or equivalent in Maths and English.” 

WRONG. Whilst some training providers set this as an entry requirement many will support apprentices whose grades were lower.

 

“If I have an apprenticeship we are tied together for a year or more.”   

WRONG. Either employee or employer can give notice in the normal way for any employment situation.  The apprenticeship can be transferred to a different employer.  The apprentice can be replaced by a new employee.

 

“Employers don’t value apprenticeships.”

WRONG. Overwhelming feedback from employers is that apprentices develop workplace skills much faster than full-time students.

 

Find out more…

For further information for Employers, Learners and Parents visit our Apprentice Zone here.

Search and contact job seekers looking for Apprentice Vacancies via our Apprentice Grooms Directory here.

Find out more about Educ8 Training here.

 

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Job Description Wonderful position at a family yard with sole charge of our horses/ponies. We offer onsite accommodation and competitive pay/benefits The ideal candidate will be competent, organised and flexible We’re looking for someone who will take pride in keeping the yard clean and tidy and to look after the horses as if they are their own. Flexibility within the role is a must – as the days can really vary! And we would ideally like to find someone who is looking for a long term role. All normal yard duties daily – we usually have 3 horses + 2 ponies. One weekend day at least. 5.5days/week. WE CANNOT ACCOMMODATE OWN HORSE CURRENTLY Must have driving licence. Can offer HGV training opportunity Experience working with children and ponies (and a good sense of humour!) required We offer a competitive package to the right person and very good working conditions Please only apply if you have the appropriate VISA/paperwork to live and work in the UK long term Please get in touch to find out more. Minimum Requirements Must have references and experience Driving licence required   Accommodation details 2 bed sole use static home (very modern only a few years old and in great condition)   Benefits Competitive salary, paid holiday and pension scheme  
Job Description Looking for a keen enthusiastic individual to come and join our small family run yard. Must be someone who is open and friendly with good communication skills, and capabale of taking overall responsibilty of the horses. Someone who is organised and methodical with their work. You will be working with top quality showjumpers from young horses through to Grand Prix. We have 12 horses max with 3 full time members of staff. Job will require all usual yard duties, tack cleaning, bandaging, tacking up, also lunging and dealing with fit competition horses including young horses and stallions. You will be required to go to all the shows both international and national. Fun friendly team to work with, alongside lovely horses. Live in position is available Please contact me for more information about the position. Pay is dependent on experience but we are on the books here so will include holiday pension etc   Accommodation details Fully kitted out mobile home     Benefits Potential for a horse  
Job Description We are looking for a Competition Groom to join our friendly and family-run Show Jumping yard near Marlborough This is a fantastic opportunity for a full-time, work-proud and driven individual. Option to live-in for the right person with a competitive salary dependent on experience. We are looking for a team player willing to get stuck in and enjoy the role. Fantastic indoor and outdoor facilities within family run yard in beautiful surroundings and friendly environment. Minimum Requirements Applicant must be competent around high class horses as well as youngsters. Accompanying competitor on national and international tours; turning out to a high standard when home and away. Ideal candidate will have HGV licence but not imperative. Accommodation details Potential to live-in for the right candidate. Newly finished flat on the farm complete with open plan kitchen, one double bedroom and en suite bathroom. Benefits Competitive salary dependent on experience.
Job Description I am looking for someone to help me with our small private yard of ponies. My 3 daughters are all doing Working Hunter and a small bit of flat showing and I am now requiring help for shows and show preparation. There will be general yard duties during the week too, but I am happy to give the candidate the beginning of the week off if they have been at shows during the weekend.   Minimum Requirements Must be able to plait and turn out to a high standard. Must be a happy disposition, and get on with the children. Drivers license required Non smokers     Accommodation details In a mobile home on the farm     Benefits A use of a car will be provided if candidate does not have one. We are 20 mins from the centre of Edinburgh with easy access to trains.      
Job Description This role will involve: Taking sole responsibility for the running one of the yards. Looking after horses to a high standard Competent rider Knowledge of horse care Cleanliness is a must Going to tournaments on a day to day basis HGV license is a massive bonus but not essential Great fun job, with the opportunity to make great friends in a social sport.   Accommodation details Accommodation can be provided.
Job Description We require a Polo Groom/Rider to join our small team to help look after our lovely horses. The job involves plenty of riding, mucking out, keeping the horses looking good, travelling to tournaments, ensuring the yard is tidy and generally helping the club run smoothly. Our horses are all very easy but you must be a competent rider as you will be required to ride and lead. The job is varied and fun.  No Polo experience required as full training given.
Job Description All yard duties, become part of existing team, tacking up, preparing horses for shows etc. Riding for the right applicant Minimum Requirements 3 years experience with horses   Accommodation details On site Static Caravan Accommodation   Benefits Training Provided Own Horse Possible Pets allowed Riding Opportunities  
Cambridgeshire – Permanent, experienced team Groom/Rider for established and traditional Hunting. *IRO £22K+accommodation (pay own electricity) *warm, cosy 1-bed apartment *Dog welcomed *Lots of riding on big, fit hunters *Great for experienced Groom or a chance to get some proper Hunt Yard experience on your CV! Lovely position available on a well-established, traditional family hunt yard within a beautiful estate. Fun, professional team renowned for being great at what they do. You will work hard but be treated well and have a very rewarding job! The position involves all grooming duties to a good standard. Lots of riding is available but you must be a strong confident good jockey, (horses ranging from 15.2-18.2HH and are fit and well). You will be taught to clip, plait (sew plaits) etc but if you already possess these skills even better.  5.5 days a week (Sunday off and half a day in the week) Hours are 6.30- 12. 30 and then just 1.5 hours in the afternoon (1.00 pm). Great facilities/menage/lunge pen/500 acres/excellent hacking. Call Caroline & the Team on 0203 006 5730 or email info@carolinecarterrecruitment.com  
Job Description Self-employed groom sought 3-5 hours a day, generally 5 days a week, to care for and manage three competition horses in a private yard between Cirencester and Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (GL54) We are seeking an enthusiastic, reliable, efficient, trustworthy person.  The person needs to be capable of sole charge, with high standards and a good level of equine management, including fitness, and riding skills for hacking and schooling.  Ability to clip, plait, and turn out to show/event standard is required. The role is for someone who is a good communicator, open minded to occasional equine complementary therapy, and adaptable to usual competition flexibility, with a sense of humour. Whilst there are usually people around, initiative and responsibility is required The person will be responsible for organising and booking the diary, for lessons, farrier, vaccinations, chiropractor, dentist, training and event schedules, alongside rider support. Minimum Requirements Average hours are 3 – 5 hours a day, minimum of 2, but need to be flexible and event days will be longer hours.  There is an opportunity of additional work, alongside this role, in a large attached livery yard.  Self employment required. This is a lovely and cheerful environment, with lovely horses, who are very much cherished, excellent facilities and outstanding hacking.   Possibility of stabling your own horse on site. ***Start date is flexible – can start any time between now and June 2024, please contact and discuss***  
*Salary £35,000 PA depending on experience and qualifications.*5 day week *Horse welcomed *Discretionary, generous end of year bonus *Overtime available *Very interesting role We have placed several staff with these employers over the years and most are still in situ with the feedback in all respects extremely positive. ‘Lovely family, a great place to work, nice people, more than fair remuneration Exciting Role on a small yard of 10 rare breed/schoolmaster horses for a really lovely private HNW family. The family reside in the UK seasonally and now needs an accomplished, calm, confident, self-starter with a passion for high standards of horse care and VIP client interactions to join the team. The daily role is inclusive of completing all yard jobs to a high standard, and exercising the horses both under saddle and in the carriage (opportunity to learn to carriage drive if not currently in your skillset). The horses need to be kept in a manner that keeps the horses suitably trained for their intended purpose and with a high level of turnout and yard. In the season the role is similar to a competition groom role, exciting and dynamic with different requests to fulfil on the main premises inclusive of pony riding, carriage driving, trekking, photoshoots, events and more! The ideal candidate would possess their HGV licence, but at minimum, the candidate will need to be confident driving a 3.5t and towing with a manual car and trailer with a willingness to obtain a HGV with the employer’s sponsorship longer-term. The candidate will need to be flexible regarding hours during the “season” the family are in residence as some events run into the evenings, this time is well remunerated and those that go above and beyond to make the residency period run smoothly are well rewarded with a very generous discretionary bonus at the end of the season. Daily working location is based in Hook, Hampshire, main estate based near Windsor, during the “season” you will be required to work from either/both locations. Could be live-in or live-out position but a relocation package is offered whereby the employer provides allowance for accommodation for 4 months, (giving time to look for own accommodation in the area). Amazing private facilities with space for 20 horses but family have <10 : International sized arena, own gallops and show jumps. Great hacking. Call Caroline and The Grooms List team on 0203 006 5730 or email info@carolinecarterrecruiment.com
Job Description English family relocating from Scotland are looking for a live-in groom to start June 2024. This is a full-time position with the requirement to work ad hoc Saturdays or Sundays as needed. The applicant will be in sole-charge of two perfectly behaved cobs and three (pretty perfectly) behaved shetland ponies. The family are currently looking to acquire three further horses / ponies to add to their team. The private estate is a working farm with excellent equine facilities. There is an outdoor arena with show jumps, miles of off-road hacking and plans for an extensive cross country course. This is a very happy and family focussed home, with young children, dogs and other livestock. HGV 7.5 ton license preferable, but for the right candidate the family would sponsor the required training and qualifications. CVs and references will be required. Minimum Requirements All yard duties must be performed to a high standard. Applicant must be a sensitive and confident rider and happy to work through any schooling or behavioural issues. Due to the size of the horses, the family require a lightweight groom, ideally one who is able to exercise and school small stocky ponies. Candidate must be energetic, a team player, with good social skills and the ability to work harmoniously alongside other staff. The family are also looking for a positive, happy groom who would also really enjoy riding with (and teaching where needed) the younger members of the family. A DBS certificate will be required. Accommodation details Idyllic one-bedroom flat adjoined to the main house, overlooking the farm and parkland. This flat is in excellent condition and there is a strong expectation that this standard of accommodation will be maintained by the successful applicant. – Council tax paid for – Water and heating paid for (T&Cs apply) – All other utilities to be covered by the applicant Benefits For the right candidate, this position offers: – The opportunity to bring with them their own horse – The opportunity to bring with them a maximum of two well behaved small pets (indoor cats only) – The opportunity to use the family horse box for personal use (when not in use by the family) Pension as standard  

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